Your desk is quiet, and the reason is probably sitting in your pipeline. John Ruffini has spent 30 years in recruiting, the last 10 to 15 training and developing recruiters, and he just released Money Makers 2.0, a full rewrite of his original book for how recruiters work today. In this episode he breaks down the question that keeps passive candidates on the phone, the pipeline math behind a consistent month, and the daily plan he trains every new recruiter on.
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📖 Money Makers 2.0 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4jbVo9l
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:37 The Million-Dollar Recruiting Question
07:03 The version for hiring managers
09:30 The 1 daily habit for a struggling desk
10:38 How to ask for referrals that produce names
12:02 Who is John Ruffini
13:43 How a programmer fell into recruiting
15:44 From nightclub DJ to recruiter
16:58 What keeps a 30-year recruiter going
19:08 What changed in 10 years, and what didn't
20:41 The new chapters: follow-up and saying no
22:47 The 6 months of voicemails that paid off
24:08 The "whatcha got" objection and the ACES method
26:50 Why call active candidates every week
28:29 One active and one passive interview a day
30:38 The 30% pipeline rule
37:29 Finding your send-out to placement ratio
39:14 The competitor board
41:08 A planned day worth copying
46:13 Six slow months, then 80 nurses on billing
49:09 The chapters for solo and boutique owners
50:37 Why deals fall apart
52:22 AI vs picking up the phone
55:34 The one chapter that survives
56:41 Quickfire: books, tools, and mentorship
59:44 The best advice from his mentor
01:01:00 The question nobody asks
01:05:36 Who the book is for
01:06:46 How to connect with John
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